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Re: I NEEEEED suggestions
« Reply #30 on: February 22, 2011, 01:16:09 pm »
Rain is enabled.
Let's see how it performs

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« Reply #31 on: February 24, 2011, 03:05:21 am »
Well, I can't assume the people has a pretty decent machine. Many have integrated video cards, or slow cpu's. I removed the fancy snow anyway :(  Let's try

Even decent machines get bogged out with those settings.  My new rig pushes 70-80 fps with a blank install.  Once tweaked it pushes that 125.  My point was that those complaining prolly were on dreadful machines or hadnt taken steps to jack up there FPS.

About the shuffle :| Well, AFAIK I can't call a shuffleteams automatically when the map starts. I am wondering if putting the command in the mapcycle list will work.

I have seen it done on ctf east server, but dont know whether it was done via mapcycle or B3.  I do have some friends writing a B3 script to do it for another server and will hook you with it when they're done.

Although, shuffling once per 8 hour chunks makes it more or less useless.

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Re: I NEEEEED suggestions
« Reply #32 on: February 24, 2011, 03:45:25 am »
About the shuffle :| Well, AFAIK I can't call a shuffleteams automatically when the map starts. I am wondering if putting the command in the mapcycle list will work.

From the server config:

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set g_maintainTeam "0" //when switching maps, players will stay in their team
I'm not sure if this would do what you want... but it seems like it would...
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Re: I NEEEEED suggestions
« Reply #33 on: February 24, 2011, 10:01:31 am »
About the shuffle :| Well, AFAIK I can't call a shuffleteams automatically when the map starts. I am wondering if putting the command in the mapcycle list will work.

From the server config:

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set g_maintainTeam "0" //when switching maps, players will stay in their team
I'm not sure if this would do what you want... but it seems like it would...

No, that option is to start a new map without showing the team select screen AFAIK

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Re: I NEEEEED suggestions
« Reply #34 on: February 24, 2011, 10:04:06 am »
Well, I can't assume the people has a pretty decent machine. Many have integrated video cards, or slow cpu's. I removed the fancy snow anyway :(  Let's try

Even decent machines get bogged out with those settings.  My new rig pushes 70-80 fps with a blank install.  Once tweaked it pushes that 125.  My point was that those complaining prolly were on dreadful machines or hadnt taken steps to jack up there FPS.

About the shuffle :| Well, AFAIK I can't call a shuffleteams automatically when the map starts. I am wondering if putting the command in the mapcycle list will work.

I have seen it done on ctf east server, but dont know whether it was done via mapcycle or B3.  I do have some friends writing a B3 script to do it for another server and will hook you with it when they're done.

Although, shuffling once per 8 hour chunks makes it more or less useless.

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Hmmm, then how much time? 1-2 hours? Less time will lose the purpose of the server. I run it with that "unlimited" purpose :P

And about the b3 scripts, thanks, I hope they will finish it soon :P

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Re: I NEEEEED suggestions
« Reply #35 on: February 24, 2011, 10:36:42 am »
So... I tried shuffleteams via mapcycle and it just got bugged ¬¬

Why UrT is SO buggy?

Yes, we need an alternative :P

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Re: I NEEEEED suggestions
« Reply #36 on: February 24, 2011, 11:29:05 am »
An admin could go on and shuffle teams once however many hours you decide... I have access to my pc for like 18 hours of the day so i could do it probs.

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« Reply #37 on: February 24, 2011, 12:50:37 pm »
An admin could go on and shuffle teams once however many hours you decide... I have access to my pc for like 18 hours of the day so i could do it probs.

Yeah, but that isn't the "good way". The process must be auto. Anyway I will consider your offer :P

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Re: I NEEEEED suggestions
« Reply #38 on: February 25, 2011, 02:45:56 am »
From the server config:
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set g_maintainTeam "0" //when switching maps, players will stay in their teamI'm not sure if this would do what you want... but it seems like it would...

No, that option is to start a new map without showing the team select screen AFAIK
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Well.. by default it's set to 1... which is what happens. You start the map without seeing the team select screen. So it seems, barring another solution, that this would force everyone to autojoin... effectively shuffling the teams.

Not sure why you would want the server to shuffle the teams around constantly... but I thought B3 had a feature for it.
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Re: I NEEEEED suggestions
« Reply #39 on: February 26, 2011, 03:29:50 pm »
Same as Haus, I dont get any change in fps with snow or rain, Im getting a constant 125/126 without interruption. As for the survivor, great! :D Ill mos def have to check it out!

and, as for the bots, I'd keep them as high a level as they can be without pissing of the playerbase. They need to keep those pesky snipers like me in check! }:D

The bots on the paladin servers just went through some changes and they work really well. (they are the <|v4|> bots)

Anyways, Ipwn. I love what you're doing! keep it up!
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Re: I NEEEEED suggestions
« Reply #40 on: February 26, 2011, 04:49:08 pm »
It all depends on your computer, UrT is a mainly low quality game, and can be played on just about any new system, but for people who have older computers with integrated graphics / a bad GPU can't.

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« Reply #41 on: February 26, 2011, 05:30:45 pm »
touché, yea, the snow is cool, but i guess a lot of payers are playing on older rigs. (at least that's what I've heard.) From my extensive* testing, a good 256meg dedicated card can take care of any urt setting. as for processing power, anything  along the lines of an athlon 64 3500+ can take handle urt. Dual cores (of any kind but intel atoms) can plow through urt, and anything beyond, (triple, quad, hexa, 8core) they'll decimate it. I've found that RAM really isn't a problem, anything 1 gig or over will be fine.

The good news is that all this gear is relatively cheap.

the bad news is that 'relatively' would be applicable for buying for something like sc2 or crysis. but i dont think any1 would be up for spending ~150 for urt xD

the bottom line is, well, no snow would be best. I guess this rant was kinda redundant, but whatever. :P




*and by extensive i mean on about 5 rigs -.-
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Re: I NEEEEED suggestions
« Reply #42 on: February 26, 2011, 06:46:02 pm »
this doesn't apply to URT, but for most higher end games, anything above 4 cores is not necessary because every game out there only utilizes up to 4 cores, 6 cores and 8 cores and 12 cores are meant for video rendering and high end editing.

also its not the amount of memory on the card, it's the quality and power of the card, most integrated graphics made from the intel core i3, i5, and i7 first and second gen can handle urt on integrated graphics, and any amd phenom integrated can, and some of amd athlon integrated can.
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« Reply #43 on: February 26, 2011, 06:48:49 pm »
touché, yea, the snow is cool, but i guess a lot of payers are playing on older rigs. (at least that's what I've heard.) From my extensive* testing, a good 256meg dedicated card can take care of any urt setting. as for processing power, anything  along the lines of an athlon 64 3500+ can take handle urt. Dual cores (of any kind but intel atoms) can plow through urt, and anything beyond, (triple, quad, hexa, 8core) they'll decimate it. I've found that RAM really isn't a problem, anything 1 gig or over will be fine.

The good news is that all this gear is relatively cheap.

the bad news is that 'relatively' would be applicable for buying for something like sc2 or crysis. but i dont think any1 would be up for spending ~150 for urt xD

the bottom line is, well, no snow would be best. I guess this rant was kinda redundant, but whatever. :P




*and by extensive i mean on about 5 rigs -.-

Well, the cores aren't important, UrT is single processor software (except the ikalizer builds) And about video cards, it depends of your resolution, maybe an ati x300 (256 mb :D   ) can't push enough for this game :P

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Re: I NEEEEED suggestions
« Reply #44 on: February 26, 2011, 10:06:03 pm »
considering on my integrated graphics ati 3200 on my shitty laptop from 08 I can run UrT, it doesn't take much to run it.

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« Reply #45 on: February 28, 2011, 09:05:08 pm »
true true. Well, 8+ cores might have some use w/ something like metro 2033 on 3 screens, but who the hell does that? (and now intel's bringing on the many core procs... what am i supposed to do with 32 cores?!?!?!? lol)

and as for the graphics, yea. but the only reason i only specified size is because cards in that range usually have decent processing power and bus speeds and all the other doodads.

Honestly, i feel your pain in terms of integrated chips. I spent like a year running urt off of a 64 meg card from 99. (while it wasn't integrated, believe me when i say it sucked... a lot.) I was lucky to get 35 fps xP. And for some reason people justify charging $50 for it...

anyways... this is my rig just for reference:

Mobo: ASUS M4A88TD-M
Proc: AMD athlon2 2.9 dual core
Vcard: ATI 2600xt sapphire 512mb (crazy lucky buy!! it's too bad these things arent in production anymore... but for that, we have 6970s.)
ram: 4gigs corsair 800mhz ddr2
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« Reply #46 on: February 28, 2011, 10:17:17 pm »
Yes, your rig is pretty good. And yes, I am afraid of other people. If the people start complaining, is because their rigs doesn't perform very well with the game. I think many people plays urban terror and not other games like Bad company or COD6 because is a funny and low requirements game.

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« Reply #47 on: March 01, 2011, 08:06:02 am »
an athlon x2 is a bad buy, a phenom x2 is the very lowest your should get with an amd build, never get an athlon x4, because in every single phenom processor there is at least 4 cores, only in the x2 phenoms, 2 of the cores are locked, you can unlock them very easily to quad core with a core unlocker. :P

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« Reply #48 on: March 01, 2011, 10:33:06 am »
an athlon x2 is a bad buy, a phenom x2 is the very lowest your should get with an amd build, never get an athlon x4, because in every single phenom processor there is at least 4 cores, only in the x2 phenoms, 2 of the cores are locked, you can unlock them very easily to quad core with a core unlocker. :P

Yes, but not always. In my case I got a phenom x2 just to test and... unsucessful unlock. Also the athlon x4 is in the same price of phenom x2, and probably you can unlock the L3 cache.

That athlon x2, probably can unlock too (to phenom x4), it depends :P

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« Reply #49 on: March 01, 2011, 11:15:58 am »
no, only phenoms have 4 or 6 cores, athlons have what they say they have unless its a tri core that means 1 core is either locked or that core is a failure to a athlon x4 so they put in a dif box and sell it as athlon x3 but sometimes you can unlock those to a x4.

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« Reply #50 on: March 01, 2011, 12:32:47 pm »

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« Reply #51 on: March 01, 2011, 10:42:21 pm »
yea, my proc isn't too great, i mean, it can run sc2 steadily on high, but craps out on ultra (~30 fps, but for sc2 that's all u need) I'm thinking of buying the phenom2 6core black edition 3.2 (only $200) and my mobo is apparently efficient at unlocking.

here's the product: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103849


before you say 'you dont need that kind of power' let me explain first: I'm planning on doing extensive physics editing with virtual liquids for an upcoming* game of mine. but that's gonna take a hella long time, and require much more money and math courses... >.<



*upcoming meaning like... 4 years -.-

and, i think im coming across as some kinda rich douche, but I just put all my $$ into computers xD I'm not rich like, at all.
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« Reply #52 on: March 01, 2011, 10:49:31 pm »
oh! and one more thing. seeing all of these dumb aimbotters on alg. unlimited, i was wondering if you could make me an admin for the purposes of getting rid of them.

coupla Q's:

 - As an admin, can you kick people from the server while in game? If you can't in game, then there isn't much of a point, seeing as I seem to be quite dumb in terms of uploading demos >.<

 - How does the security for being an admin work? password? ip?

If you don't want more admins right now, or you don't trust me, I completely understand, but just keep in mind that i'm always open to the idea! :D
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Re: I NEEEEED suggestions
« Reply #53 on: March 01, 2011, 11:44:03 pm »
i'v had a player request, a little banner when you get to 1000 kills...i suggest 500 rather then 1000....or maybe just 100, but it would be cool to get a little message anyway lol, :D

there was another but i forgot, o well i'll look it up i SS'ed it
One of the players used his gun to called me a paranoid little weirdo....In Morse Code.

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« Reply #54 on: March 02, 2011, 12:51:14 am »
yea, my proc isn't too great, i mean, it can run sc2 steadily on high, but craps out on ultra (~30 fps, but for sc2 that's all u need) I'm thinking of buying the phenom2 6core black edition 3.2 (only $200) and my mobo is apparently efficient at unlocking.

here's the product: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103849


before you say 'you dont need that kind of power' let me explain first: I'm planning on doing extensive physics editing with virtual liquids for an upcoming* game of mine. but that's gonna take a hella long time, and require much more money and math courses... >.<



*upcoming meaning like... 4 years -.-

and, i think im coming across as some kinda rich douche, but I just put all my $$ into computers xD I'm not rich like, at all.


Is ok, I wasn't thinking about... "Is a lot of power" xD and I am the poorest man in the city LOL. By the way, is an interesting project, I am guessing you study some engineer or physics/math.

oh! and one more thing. seeing all of these dumb aimbotters on alg. unlimited, i was wondering if you could make me an admin for the purposes of getting rid of them.

coupla Q's:

 - As an admin, can you kick people from the server while in game? If you can't in game, then there isn't much of a point, seeing as I seem to be quite dumb in terms of uploading demos >.<

 - How does the security for being an admin work? password? ip?

If you don't want more admins right now, or you don't trust me, I completely understand, but just keep in mind that i'm always open to the idea! :D



I will consider you.
About the security, well, it consists of the player GUID generated by the game. If you remove the qkey file in the q3ut4 folder, you will lose the privileges.

And yes, you apply commands in game.
i'v had a player request, a little banner when you get to 1000 kills...i suggest 500 rather then 1000....or maybe just 100, but it would be cool to get a little message anyway lol, :D

there was another but i forgot, o well i'll look it up i SS'ed it


That implies writing a plugin for b3.
But I am doing some tests to apply remote commands from PHP scripts. Maybe I can write an script to verify some conditions in background and send that messages, but it will take some time... (and is a good exercise for me)

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« Reply #55 on: March 02, 2011, 08:26:07 am »
dont buy the 6 core delicious, unless you do high end video editing and conversion, that's one of the only things that will actually utilize all six cores, also you should probably upgrade to an intel processor, you'll probably need a new motherboard though, so you should wait... I recommend waiting until the i7 2nd gen motherbaords are fixed, I have the i7 2600k with one of the faulty mobos but it hasnt effected me as I only use 2 sata devices.

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« Reply #56 on: March 02, 2011, 03:13:26 pm »
Wow, I has really sparked some debate.

1) People with lower style rigs can boost there game performance through game settings.  I dont think the snow would seriously effected a well tuned rig.

2) @Durandal why shuffle the teams?
- To keep it from being a one sided face rape through the game play.  On Algiers, this face rape usually means one side getting pinned in the spawn and hammered for a great length of time.  These periods of forced oral sex could be at least cut down in length of time by doing so.  Sometimes I feel guilty running the routes between Oasis building and Square racking up red kills in sprees of 15 or more.

3) @ pwns
- I always took the unlimited as always Algiers.  I never considered it the length of the round but the ability to always go murder on Algiers.  More of a Algiers 24/7 I guess. 1 or 2  hours rounds would be better, but what is the average length that a user spends on Algiers Unlimited?

4) I have a quad core and specifically set it to single core performance mode.  Although, I only play URT and not other games.  I believe this is a major FPS boost and I still use the Ikalizer.

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Re: I NEEEEED suggestions
« Reply #57 on: March 02, 2011, 04:55:26 pm »
Here's how it goes most often

Most people play from 45 minutes to 1 hour

People who are having a good time(say they're having like a 4 to 1 kill to death ratio today are going to play till they get bored but this is every server)

People who are doing bad usually stop fairly soon after starting

Average is about 45 min i'd say... So 1 hour rounds or 2 hour rounds would be nice but what's the point of having a round, it just resets the score and makes everyone reload the map, kinda pointless.

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« Reply #58 on: March 02, 2011, 08:10:51 pm »
but what's the point of having a round, it just resets the score and makes everyone reload the map, kinda pointless.

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« Reply #59 on: March 02, 2011, 08:33:48 pm »
@foxy daddy. well, liquid rendering is somewhat beyond the power of procs on the market (good liquid rendering.) so i want the most bang for my buck as i can get. And in terms of price, intel is out of my range, seeing as i'd have to switch mobos and it's usually good to stick with the AMD:ATI or Intel:NVidia grouping. and the high end i7s are just ridiculous pricewise ($1000-$1200 xP) AMD's are comprable in power for their similar models and are usually cheaper. but you're right. until I need to use it, 6 cores is more of just a bragging rights thing. Im thinking of the quad core black edition as my more realistic pic ($149)

As for the banner idea, I think it's fantastic!!! I love achievement-style things, it just makes the game more fun. Id get a banner for
-1st knife kills, and for 5 10 25 and 50
-goomba kills at 1 and 5 (so rare) make sure to throw in a 'xD' or 2
-and total kills (for the whole time you've played, not just the particular session. at 50 100 500 1000 5000 10000 25000 50000 100000 500000 and 1000000

just some thoughts. :D however ridiculous they may seem. lol
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