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mohawk.urbanterror

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Question about Algiers Server
« on: August 31, 2013, 03:00:51 pm »
Hi !

First thank you for your work. I stopped urt from one year and from few month i play barely just on your Algiers server (i like this map).
My question is why you choose a server in USA if the majority of players are in Europe (perhaps i make a mistake). In deed i see lot of people say they lag (me too), and the server should be better if it is nearest Europe, no ?
It's just a question, i repeat, i respect your work and i have also lot of fun to play in your server.

(Sorry for my horrible english)

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Re: Question about Algiers Server
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2013, 03:17:09 pm »
Hello

Well, there isn't a particular reason. The first Algiers iteration was at west coast too. At Seattle. Since then, I've tried to mantain it there because there are a lot of Asian players too.

And indeed, I think the distribution of players is bigger at the Europe side. Probably that's why the Germany server is so popular. So, in my plans there is still a possibility to run a server at Italia. Probably another Algiers? :P

Other possibility, is going just to East Coast. This should give like... 60-80 ms less for the Europe people.

In conclusion, there are several possibilities. And even more with the Frozensand pressure to force us to move to the 4.2 version.

So, I will do my next movement in the next weeks :P

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Re: Question about Algiers Server
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2013, 03:20:09 pm »
Sure. My ping will be higher. Maybe 200 or 250 :( . It is the only server where I play tdm

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Re: Question about Algiers Server
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2013, 04:13:41 pm »
ok, so i wait !  ;D

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Re: Question about Algiers Server
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2013, 10:29:30 pm »
By NO means do the majority of playes in Algiers come from Europe. As an admin I sit in there and watch the logins and their locations and they come from everywhere across the earth. A great many of them like myself from Australiasia and the Pacific region, We can play West Coast U.S. based servers which give us 200 to 220ms ping but that's getting on the limit.

A move to the East coast would be bad enough for many of us but moving it to Europe would render it unplayable for anyone other than Europe and perhaps Northern America. I can admin in the Germany server but it is pretty well unplayable to me with pings in the 350 to 400 range.

Quite frankly the European players have got the Germany server and it's one of the busiest and most sucessful 4.1 servers left in the server list, if they want 24 hours Algiers they can try and convince iPWN to change the Germany server that way but they can bloody well leave the other servers for the rest of us.

Frankly, if TLWS moved the Algiers server to Europe, if I wanted to continue playing my only option would be to "try" to re activate my own games communities here and re open servers here and the truth is I'm too bloody old and cranky and sick to do that anymore.

I arrived in TLWS server in the first place because with the demise of the Australian servers the Algiers server was the last server under 250ms ping with a reasonable number of players I could find. From my own totally selfish perspective I'd like to see Algiers to run a map rotation like Germay because I get sick of Algiers but I would not be so selfish as to push for it.

In a sentence, the day Algiers moves to Europe my playing life with UrT is over and I suspect the same would be true for a number of us in this region of the world.

/end rant


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Re: Question about Algiers Server
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2013, 10:36:25 pm »
By NO means do the majority of playes in Algiers come from Europe. As an admin I sit in there and watch the logins and their locations and they come from everywhere across the earth. A great many of them like myself from Australiasia and the Pacific region, We can play West Coast U.S. based servers which give us 200 to 220ms ping but that's getting on the limit.

A move to the East coast would be bad enough for many of us but moving it to Europe would render it unplayable for anyone other than Europe and perhaps Northern America. I can admin in the Germany server but it is pretty well unplayable to me with pings in the 350 to 400 range.

Quite frankly the European players have got the Germany server and it's one of the busiest and most sucessful 4.1 servers left in the server list, if they want 24 hours Algiers they can try and convince iPWN to change the Germany server that way but they can bloody well leave the other servers for the rest of us.

Frankly, if TLWS moved the Algiers server to Europe, if I wanted to continue playing my only option would be to "try" to re activate my own games communities here and re open servers here and the truth is I'm too bloody old and cranky and sick to do that anymore.

I arrived in TLWS server in the forst place because with the demise of the Australian servers the Algiers server was the last server under 250ms ping with a reasonable number of players I could find. From my own totally selfish perspective I'd like to see Algiers to run a map rotation like Germay because I get sick of Algiers but I would not be so selfish as to push for it.

In a sentence, the day Algiers moves to Europe my playing life with UrT is over and I suspect the same would be true for a number of us in this region of the world.

/end rant


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Dec

completely agree

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Re: Question about Algiers Server
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2013, 01:29:39 am »
Well, I didn't meant to move it.
Maybe to create a new one :P

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Re: Question about Algiers Server
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2013, 01:56:13 am »
Well, a new server is ALWAYS a good thing :D

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Re: Question about Algiers Server
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2013, 02:40:14 am »
Well, a new server is ALWAYS a good thing :D

Especially an SR8-only one x)

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Re: Question about Algiers Server
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2013, 03:08:22 am »
Well, a new server is ALWAYS a good thing :D

Especially an SR8-only one x)

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Re: Question about Algiers Server
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2013, 04:33:27 am »
I like sr only

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Re: Question about Algiers Server
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2013, 06:42:31 am »
I'm not into lame......errr SNIPER rifles myself but I can use them well enough if need be :D

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Re: Question about Algiers Server
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2013, 12:32:59 pm »
Algiers only? Sniper only? That combo already smells like a disaster. As if there aren't so many boxes to camp behind (nothing against camping mind you), give them a sniper and I feel like there's going to be very little movement on the map.

Disclaimer: I have been known to be wrong many times.
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Re: Question about Algiers Server
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2013, 01:22:29 pm »
I don't think you're too far off the mark Mav. Algiers is a good map, but the percentage of players who *only* want to play any map is reduced of course. No matter how much you like a map if that's the only one on the server you get tired of it eventually. Back in the day when players were plentiful it was not a problem, as fast as people got tired of a single map and moved on newer players would become regulars. This is no longer so much the case.

Likewise restricting a server to any one weapon. Hell, I often change weapons 3 times in a map. The already reduced number of players who are happy to play one map only then become further reduced when weapons restrictions come into play.

Nutshell, a single map single weapon server will please a very small demographic greatly and a very great demographic very little = Bad value for money.

Like you however I have been known to be wrong many times.

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Re: Question about Algiers Server
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2013, 01:19:41 am »
We didn't mean algiers only sr8 only. Just that a sr8 only server would be fun (with lots of maps in the rotation).
It is better to step on your nade "accidently" than to let it blow up in your hand.

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Re: Question about Algiers Server
« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2013, 02:25:34 am »
We didn't mean algiers only sr8 only. Just that a sr8 only server would be fun (with lots of maps in the rotation).

Hey mate, Personally I don't have a lot of time for UrT's idea of what sniping is, I just find it pretty sterile, hits are too easy with the standard UrT hitbox, maps are too small for real sniping and the damage weighting is all wrong. They were talking about reducing the SR8 hit power by about 50% in 4.2, another one of those things that never actually happened. If I d snipe I almost always use the PSG.

I do know lots of other people enjoy it heaps however so I'd be supportive of trying a sniper only server. If it takes off popularity wise then all the better for TLWS, if it's slow then we can look at changing the config later on down the track. Either way is good as far as I'm concerned.

In the end it's iPWN's call amyway lol

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Re: Question about Algiers Server
« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2013, 05:16:22 am »
If I d snipe I almost always use the PSG.
And you wait the time of reload of SR8 to be fair i suppose, lol.

For geographic location of server I understand your problem, it was just a question. If we have two server perhaps is good but it will divide de number of player on each, no ?

In my case i think to change of ISP, because it seems mine connection lost lot of packets too.

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Re: Question about Algiers Server
« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2013, 07:59:38 am »
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And you wait the time of reload of SR8 to be fair i suppose, lol.

Hell no, they're using a firearm that can supposedly tear you apart in one shot where on average I'm going to have to hit them twice with a psg to knock them down. I say "supposedly" because while the .338 Lapua round does exist (I've fired it many times) the SR8 is a concept rifle that never went into prodcution but meh ...it's only a game right? ;)

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For geographic location of server I understand your problem, it was just a question. If we have two server perhaps is good but it will divide de number of player on each, no ?

Logical thought.

People from Australasia play in U.S. servers primarily because we *have* to if we want to play at all. While there are a few servers left in our part of the world they are almost all CTF and those of us who want to play something else have to play in the U.S. If you move the server to Europe we are just not going to play at all as the ping is too high.

That in mind, if we want to keep one server so we don't split the players then the best course is going to be to maintain Algiers as an East coast U.S. server. We can play in there from the South Pacific, Europeans can play in there, we all get 200 or so ms ping which is higher than we would ideally like but it's better than Europeans trying to play in an Australian server or vice versa which gives a piung of closer to 400ms.

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Re: Question about Algiers Server
« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2013, 08:10:14 am »
Reference for anyone interested on the SR8. I see that the project has been officially cancelled.

http://www.snipercentral.com/sr8.htm

I've fired the Lapua in a Jongmanns bolt gun a number of times. It's a big round to fire but nothing like .50cal Browning. If you can fire .30-06 comfortably you'll be able to manage the .338. It's about 15% heavier recoil wise but carries more energy and shoots flatter than the .30-06 past 700m or so.

The .50cal has more energy at the muzzle than the Lapua but once you pass 800m the .50 drops off quicker and the Lapua carries more energy and shoots flatter than the .50cal past that distance due to the smaller cross sectional density of the projectile. The .50 is also much more unpleasant from the butt stock side to fire.

Somewhat of a diversion I know but I am a bit of a firearms lover. Why else play a FPS game right? ;P

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Re: Question about Algiers Server
« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2013, 05:47:14 am »
I like to see you use a snipy Dec.... i know for a fact its gonna be interesting... gonna put my troll hat on... while watch and probably make a montage... trololol hehe... Love and peace Dec...
Anyone willing to help me out on a simple Siggy project of mine?

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Re: Question about Algiers Server
« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2013, 09:37:37 am »
I do snipe sometimes, but I don't usually own up to it LOL

It just doesn't feel right to me in tihs game.

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Re: Question about Algiers Server
« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2013, 10:26:03 am »
I saw Dec using a psg a few days ago  :P
It is better to step on your nade "accidently" than to let it blow up in your hand.

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Re: Question about Algiers Server
« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2013, 10:32:48 am »
shhhhh don't tell anyone. They might think I can actually HIT something
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